@Inf3ct3d92 Remember arm bar and knee bars are competition move. To ever think you would perform some type of a takedown right into a arm or knee bar in real combat would be unadvisalbe. Think about it there are much less risky and less likely to fail takedowns and control holds or finishes. Things that allow you to defend from a 2nd attacker or weapon deployment from the first attacker. What u see in this video are fantastic competition move, might work out great in real combat, but very risky!
@Inf3ct3d92 Well what I am talking about is the concept. Yes the ground is hard and u may be injured, but also remember for self defense or in combat when you are on the ground even in a superior position u ar at great risk other attack from a second attacker which you will have little ability to defend. As a CQB instructor I have trained under top military instructors and experienced combatives live many times. You want to your enemy but not tie yourself up. I have done Sambo, Judo BJJ also.
@CQB32 Not exactly.. Some of them moves are pretty safe to perform, some a dengerous of course, so you avoid them and use the onces which are safer to do… and if you fight on the grass then it will be safe to do any moves really.. just depends how you do them really.. oh and I did Sambo before for some time btw, so I’m not just making this up
Good for competition, dangerous for real combat. Going to the ground and more so going to your back in th real fight very dangerous for so many reasons should be avoided if possible. Nice moves poor concept to self defense.
@obomx en esto no necesitas cooperacion los maestros de sambo jujutsu judo tuvinian y luta livre no necesitan de cooperacion, en muchas ocaciones ayude a mis maestros en exhibiciones y jamas me dijeron que pusiera cooperativo, te repito esto no es lucha libre que necesitas que tu compañero te de base; te sugiero dependiendo en que aspecto este interesado si es en deporte o en defensa que te des la vuelta en alguna academia de las artes que te menciono y pidas demostracion (aprendea caer primero)
I like the variety of leg locks,
To me, legs are limb too, and should be attacked just as much as arms and neck in rolling. But every time, its always the arms or neck, legs maybe once in a while, but never as frequent.
Pity the Cardinal of Lyon was so stuck up about it when de Coubertain was reinstalling the Olympics, if it hadn’t been for him WMA might be a lot more advanced.
@JahnosSardonis: I think the one of the founders studied Judo under Kano Jigoro, then incorporated some elements of the wrestling traditions in the Central Asian parts of Russia and anything else he found useful.
@JACharbs id bet in a real fight situation they would be doing these moves alot faster than this plus being flexible wont really work if your caught unaware and the speed of you leg being jammed up your arse would hurt, plus would you mind explaining what you mean by a “real martial artist” because for all i know is that you mean flash stage theatrics. this style of unarmed combat is meant to be brutal and simple, effective for fighting in trenches where rifles would serve less effectivly in ‘em
@JACharbs err…this is Sambo, this was created for the purpose of breaking bones and killing and it ignores all the flashiness of a shitload of martial art moves. Haven’t you noticed that they grapple like the whole friggin time? This is a style used by bodyguards and Mixed Martial Artists that went on to become champions, so no disrespect but this is one of the most effective martial arts in the planet. By the way, which “True Martial Arts” were you referring to?
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MsKatrama says:
May 11, 2011 at 8:24 pm (UTC 0)
@againsturlaw like you
CQB32 says:
May 11, 2011 at 9:11 pm (UTC 0)
@Inf3ct3d92 Remember arm bar and knee bars are competition move. To ever think you would perform some type of a takedown right into a arm or knee bar in real combat would be unadvisalbe. Think about it there are much less risky and less likely to fail takedowns and control holds or finishes. Things that allow you to defend from a 2nd attacker or weapon deployment from the first attacker. What u see in this video are fantastic competition move, might work out great in real combat, but very risky!
CQB32 says:
May 11, 2011 at 9:45 pm (UTC 0)
@Inf3ct3d92 Well what I am talking about is the concept. Yes the ground is hard and u may be injured, but also remember for self defense or in combat when you are on the ground even in a superior position u ar at great risk other attack from a second attacker which you will have little ability to defend. As a CQB instructor I have trained under top military instructors and experienced combatives live many times. You want to your enemy but not tie yourself up. I have done Sambo, Judo BJJ also.
Inf3ct3d92 says:
May 11, 2011 at 9:56 pm (UTC 0)
@CQB32 Not exactly.. Some of them moves are pretty safe to perform, some a dengerous of course, so you avoid them and use the onces which are safer to do… and if you fight on the grass then it will be safe to do any moves really.. just depends how you do them really.. oh and I did Sambo before for some time btw, so I’m not just making this up
N1rvanaGod says:
May 11, 2011 at 10:49 pm (UTC 0)
thumbs up if you want to recreate the technique on the minute 1:12 on your big brother!!!!!!!!!!!!
CQB32 says:
May 11, 2011 at 10:59 pm (UTC 0)
Good for competition, dangerous for real combat. Going to the ground and more so going to your back in th real fight very dangerous for so many reasons should be avoided if possible. Nice moves poor concept to self defense.
StriderMx001 says:
May 11, 2011 at 11:45 pm (UTC 0)
@obomx en esto no necesitas cooperacion los maestros de sambo jujutsu judo tuvinian y luta livre no necesitan de cooperacion, en muchas ocaciones ayude a mis maestros en exhibiciones y jamas me dijeron que pusiera cooperativo, te repito esto no es lucha libre que necesitas que tu compañero te de base; te sugiero dependiendo en que aspecto este interesado si es en deporte o en defensa que te des la vuelta en alguna academia de las artes que te menciono y pidas demostracion (aprendea caer primero)
obomx says:
May 12, 2011 at 12:12 am (UTC 0)
para esos movimientos se necesita un contenidente que esté dispuesto a seguirnos la corriente
FlamingNinjaco says:
May 12, 2011 at 1:07 am (UTC 0)
dude i would kill for a camo gi
95ellington says:
May 12, 2011 at 2:07 am (UTC 0)
I like the variety of leg locks,
To me, legs are limb too, and should be attacked just as much as arms and neck in rolling. But every time, its always the arms or neck, legs maybe once in a while, but never as frequent.
MrExilo says:
May 12, 2011 at 3:06 am (UTC 0)
This is like, “I’m going to kill you, but first i’m going to snap every bone in your body.”
SlavaSvarogu says:
May 12, 2011 at 3:43 am (UTC 0)
@kacper2001 COZ NO BALLS:)))
JahnosSardonis says:
May 12, 2011 at 4:28 am (UTC 0)
@TheShamanSZ You can always blame the French for whatever reason things aren’t more awesome than what they already are =P
TheShamanSZ says:
May 12, 2011 at 5:20 am (UTC 0)
@JahnosSardonis : They called it Pankration
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Pity the Cardinal of Lyon was so stuck up about it when de Coubertain was reinstalling the Olympics, if it hadn’t been for him WMA might be a lot more advanced.
JahnosSardonis says:
May 12, 2011 at 6:07 am (UTC 0)
@TheShamanSZ Like the ancient style of “Ass Kicking” =P
TheShamanSZ says:
May 12, 2011 at 6:46 am (UTC 0)
@JahnosSardonis: I think the one of the founders studied Judo under Kano Jigoro, then incorporated some elements of the wrestling traditions in the Central Asian parts of Russia and anything else he found useful.
davidcoshatt01 says:
May 12, 2011 at 7:17 am (UTC 0)
haha who ever it is it just takes a grab of the arm then they go down like in old country
solarfire1988 says:
May 12, 2011 at 7:59 am (UTC 0)
these guys are hot!
ctwolfpack1 says:
May 12, 2011 at 8:29 am (UTC 0)
my guess is ex spetsnaz
TheKojos says:
May 12, 2011 at 9:22 am (UTC 0)
Sambo is good .
MagnumReaper666 says:
May 12, 2011 at 10:07 am (UTC 0)
@JACharbs id bet in a real fight situation they would be doing these moves alot faster than this plus being flexible wont really work if your caught unaware and the speed of you leg being jammed up your arse would hurt, plus would you mind explaining what you mean by a “real martial artist” because for all i know is that you mean flash stage theatrics. this style of unarmed combat is meant to be brutal and simple, effective for fighting in trenches where rifles would serve less effectivly in ‘em
videogamespoofer says:
May 12, 2011 at 10:08 am (UTC 0)
this is the coolest shit i hav ever seen i am going to do this some day
JahnosSardonis says:
May 12, 2011 at 10:14 am (UTC 0)
@CerpinTaxt1983 close, more Judo perhaps. As jiu-jitsu has no striking.
JahnosSardonis says:
May 12, 2011 at 10:31 am (UTC 0)
@JACharbs err…this is Sambo, this was created for the purpose of breaking bones and killing and it ignores all the flashiness of a shitload of martial art moves. Haven’t you noticed that they grapple like the whole friggin time? This is a style used by bodyguards and Mixed Martial Artists that went on to become champions, so no disrespect but this is one of the most effective martial arts in the planet. By the way, which “True Martial Arts” were you referring to?
JahnosSardonis says:
May 12, 2011 at 11:25 am (UTC 0)
Sergei Dragunov likes this video.