www.closequarterscombat.com – The close quarters combat elbow strike works best for close quarter self defense. But here’s how to make your elbow strike even more powerful and devastating in a real street fight.
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www.closequarterscombat.com – The close quarters combat elbow strike works best for close quarter self defense. But here’s how to make your elbow strike even more powerful and devastating in a real street fight.
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Hayashirice911 says:
May 3, 2011 at 7:47 pm (UTC 0)
@seusgordo How will you be defenseless? The side that you grab the head with is protected, because he wont be throwing any haymakers from that position, and unless youre just grabbing the back of his head and standing there, then your elbow will already be implanted into his face. He MIGHT throw a shitty uppercut, but it’s highly unlikely. Grab his head and throw your elbow, he will either be knocked out cold or dazed.
jman11097 says:
May 3, 2011 at 8:19 pm (UTC 0)
Why would anyone grab a persons head while doing a elbow strike? You need the other arm to defend yourself as you attack and if you don”t , the person your attacking could give a elbow strike right back to you.
raredesign says:
May 3, 2011 at 8:42 pm (UTC 0)
@raredesign and just so everyone knows, I am not opposed to elbows by any means. I am a firm believer in using the elbows and knees. I feel like that is common sense, but don’t try to bring a dudes head down to your elbow if he is not weary. Maybe I would vertically strike him in the throat or something with a rising elbow, or after a nice front kick buckled him, probably brace his head and smash my knee into his nose…man…now I want to go fight…
raredesign says:
May 3, 2011 at 8:59 pm (UTC 0)
@raredesign …well to clarify…not just off balance or cross, but also for faints or lead-ins which will set it up nicely.
My personal preference and experience…take it or leave it. No big deal to me.
I am just saying be cautious with this type of move.
My apologies to the poster of this vid, but I just think there are much better tactics to focus on then something this risky. I would put a move like this in the category of other flashy moves such as scissor kicks.
raredesign says:
May 3, 2011 at 9:17 pm (UTC 0)
… continued – Even though I don’t like it to begin with, this could really only be executed in very minimal situations. I keep my hands up, and to queue a back of the head grab, will likely cause my reflex to place my hands on both your shoulders (at that point you can’t elbow me), then I am going to knee the heck out of your appendix/hip area. The only time I lead with a preparatory move ,etc, is if it will totally take them off balance, or I can get them to cross.
raredesign says:
May 3, 2011 at 10:02 pm (UTC 0)
This is a risky way to execute. Here is why:
- Bodies are not rigid like the dummy in this vid, so you have to account for flex which can leave your arm extended and no head in your hands.
- The act of pulling and pushing at the same time is not an efficient way to execute precision. You are moving outside of what you control by bringing in another variable. Ultimately you are dependent on the weakness, slow reflexes, and inability for them to counter. — continued…
ProphetofGod says:
May 3, 2011 at 10:53 pm (UTC 0)
One thing i haven’t seen any of you post, except for how weak, useless, soft the elbow is…
let’s get to the fundamentals, it can be a great hit, and it’s much more likely than to hit with a right hook, if you’re that close, you have no momentum with your right hook.
Ok, listen people, it disgusts me half of you don’t point this out, or any of you.
You have to push off with your toes, SNAP YOUR HIPS, THEN your shoulders THEN your elbow. Its a WHOLE BODY movement. FFS people, ur clueles
MrQuackism says:
May 3, 2011 at 11:22 pm (UTC 0)
No a bad tip!
shan9usfc says:
May 4, 2011 at 12:03 am (UTC 0)
@nickholai if Snake was only real…oh well Dear Santa…
Drag4401 says:
May 4, 2011 at 1:01 am (UTC 0)
Very good, you’re a great instructer ! Thanks for your other “secret of uppercuts” vid too, great stuff. This is the kind of practical, instantly usable & memorable things I’m after. Pls. don’t be discouraged by the ingrates.
NIETZSCHEAN14 says:
May 4, 2011 at 1:21 am (UTC 0)
@seusgordo. You are right. This guy should not be trying to teach others. He still needs to learn the basics!
cqctraining says:
May 4, 2011 at 1:49 am (UTC 0)
@seusgordo – Understood. We post articles from all positions and circumstances because in a real street fight, you have to be prepared for anything for self defense. This self defense technique is only to show one possible martial arts move to give more power to the elbow strike. There are other methods, including 1 elbow strikes as well as other areas of the elbow to strike with.
Professional feedback is always welcome on any of my videos. Thanks for the follow up!
seusgordo says:
May 4, 2011 at 2:31 am (UTC 0)
@cqctraining that’s true, in fact what I wanted to say wasn’t that it is useless, sorry, I wanted to say that there are better moves. I do Krav Maga for a while now and you probaly know that there are simple elbow strike moves where you use only 1 arm to strike the opponent in the side of the jaw and your other hand stays in the defense position, close to your body. why it’s better to do this simple one? Because in most combats u can forget 70% of what u learned, especially complex moves
cqctraining says:
May 4, 2011 at 2:59 am (UTC 0)
@seusgordo – Appreciate input. In response:
1. “if he decides to punch you”: You’re not in slow motion. Your attack must be quick or you’ll never pull it off. At close quarters combat distance, you’re not in “punching range”. In martial arts, it’s called “trapping range” so not an issue.
2. Elbow strike: The entire arm from the elbow to the wrist (when your palm is facing you) is like a lead pipe. Best to hit just near the elbow but anywhere along the hard forearm will deliver power.
seusgordo says:
May 4, 2011 at 3:24 am (UTC 0)
people please: NEVER do this move! it’s useless
When you want to hit the guy with the elbow, don’t grab his head because you will be defensless and if he decides to punch you, you’re fucked. And also because in the vid the guy is hitting with the SIDE of the elbow, which deliver less power (cause it’s the softer part of the elbow)
cqctraining says:
May 4, 2011 at 3:54 am (UTC 0)
@giantshrek1 – I don’t disagree. Actually, I have another video on this very principle that you’ve stated (speed vs. power). In a real fight, the palm heel would by my first choice.
Overall, the self defense technique in this video is better at simply showing how to add more power to an elbow strike in certain situations.
Thanks for your input. Much appreciated!
giantshrek1 says:
May 4, 2011 at 4:10 am (UTC 0)
If your lead hand is near enough to grab the back of his head, why don’t you just palm heel him in the jawline with the lead hand with a slight shuffle forward to bring your body weight in to play? That can be a main blow by itself or to set up a heavier blow with your rear hand.
silversification says:
May 4, 2011 at 4:37 am (UTC 0)
you talk too much
cqctraining says:
May 4, 2011 at 5:32 am (UTC 0)
@jayrock22ing – You should always try to make your self defense training as realistic as possible. The B.O.B. training dummy works great for this but you can do things like put a ski cap on him, clothes (even pants as shown); neclaces (some street bling?
etc.
cqctraining says:
May 4, 2011 at 5:52 am (UTC 0)
@zouga – It’s definitely not a black and white self defense technique. But then again, nothing really is in a real street fight, right?
A lot can go wrong with this technique if it doesn’t have enough speed to it, especially if you’re using it as a first strike. It’s best to use it as a follow up to get more power into your elbow strike.
In the end, it’s simply another tool to be added to your tool box of self defense techniques.
jayrock22ing says:
May 4, 2011 at 6:10 am (UTC 0)
i like how they dressed up the dummy
zouga says:
May 4, 2011 at 7:07 am (UTC 0)
From somone that has boxed for 6 years, I also did muay thai for 2. This looks difficult to actually acheive. Im sure it works perfectly when executed, but i didnt hear you bringing up different ways around what your opponent would be doing while you were grabbing his head, from someone who knows what he was doing i would expect nothing more than a right hook over the top of my grab unless you hide your chin behind shoulder but even then i would most likely get smacked. Nice vid though L:O
cqctraining says:
May 4, 2011 at 7:28 am (UTC 0)
@TheSubwaysurfer – That’s an EXCELLENT analogy (the “swimming” motion). This puts a lot of upper body momentum into the elbow strike. It largely depends up on body position because if he’s taller than you (which I set my training dummy to be), then you won’t be able to get that downward motion into the strike, but coming from above, it works great.
Kempo is a very direct martial art and employs a lot of power moves. I didn’t realize they also taught clinch work.
Thanks for following up!
cqctraining says:
May 4, 2011 at 7:44 am (UTC 0)
@TheSubwaysurfer – good point. The body is programmed to flinch away from a perceived threat and you’ll need a lot of speed to be able to quickly get a hand behind the head for this self defense technique.
In addition, coming up from below the line of sight may give you crucial advantage in pulling this move off.
Thanks for the valuable input SubwaySurfer! Your experience is welcome on this channel! Keep it up!
~ Jeff
cqctraining says:
May 4, 2011 at 8:41 am (UTC 0)
@91usmcsniper91 – I better understand your point about the clinch and I guess it could be viewed as a “half clinch”. But there’s no illusion that you’re going to get the same kind of leverage with only one hand and not having the strength of your whole upper body to help you.
Still appreciate you sharing your insight…still want you to comment more on this and any other self defense videos…still want to make sure you contribute professionally.
Thanks again.